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Susquehanna River, Questions & Comments => Susquehanna River Smallmouth Bass => Topic started by: Pawatch on September 18, 2020, 05:06:13 PM

Title: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on September 18, 2020, 05:06:13 PM
Fall is here and the water temp is starting to drop.
Was out the other day with my youngest son. Was pretty foggy and a cold ride.
Caught a few nice ones and also a bunch of dinks.

(https://i.imgur.com/jwoY1Bz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0JfY772.jpg)

I would also like to thank Phil for getting me straight on posting pictures with Linux.

West Branch, Williamsport



Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on September 18, 2020, 05:49:24 PM
Few more pics of the river.
For a few mornings it was 42 degrees and foggy.
Bottom picture in the afternoon.

(https://i.imgur.com/qtkzyjK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/sFBj0Ly.jpg)
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on September 19, 2020, 07:59:51 AM
36 degrees here this morning. About time to break out the heavier clothes.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on September 19, 2020, 09:01:48 AM
I really have mixed emotions about fog.  It certainly makes it more dangerous.  I was out once when you couldnít see more than 5í.  Guys were in danger of hitting another boat when on the TM. 

On the other hand it does seem to turn on the topwater bite. 
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on September 20, 2020, 08:24:35 AM
TM.
TM? Don't know that abbreviation
I would say the other day in the fog I was going 3 miles an hour!
Phil
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on September 20, 2020, 08:41:54 AM
Not much boat traffic during the week especially with the colder temps. Some mornings I'm the only boat there that early.
If the fog is heavy I just take my time.

From talking to other people the big fish are starting to show up.
37 degrees this morning.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on September 20, 2020, 09:12:17 AM
TM? Don't know that abbreviation

Trolling motor.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on September 20, 2020, 09:55:16 AM
Trolling motor.
You would think I could have figured that out!
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on September 20, 2020, 09:56:48 AM
You would think I could have figured that out!

We all have our moments.   ;)
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on September 21, 2020, 06:36:39 PM
Going to get out tomorrow for a good part of the day. Interested to see what the water temp a
has dropped to.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on September 21, 2020, 06:58:41 PM
Going to get out tomorrow for a good part of the day. Interested to see what the water temp a
has dropped to.
Me too. I might wait 3/4 hour after sunrise to let a little fog burn off!
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on September 22, 2020, 04:24:26 PM
34 degrees this morning...frost 3 days in a row.
Water temp has dropped to 61 degrees. Fish not really biting just some dinks.
But what a beautiful day to be on the water.

(https://i.imgur.com/JNftktY.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/u6PCCsG.png)
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on September 22, 2020, 05:25:22 PM
34 degrees this morning...frost 3 days in a row.
Water temp has dropped to 61 degrees. Fish not really biting just some dinks.
But what a beautiful day to be on the water.

(https://i.imgur.com/JNftktY.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/u6PCCsG.png)
Launched at River Front Park this AM. Just under 60 degrees. No bass just this:
(https://i.imgur.com/gQgFKELm.jpg)
Then I went and launched at Chickees. 4-5 bass, 1 was 12" fish were aggressive. End water temp 65 degrees
Phil

Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on September 22, 2020, 06:27:53 PM
Ha  :D I bet that thing put up a pretty good fight.
At least you found some aggressive fish.

I really want to fish below the dam where the bigger fish are, but the water is skinny.
To load my boat by myself I pretty have to get in the water.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on September 22, 2020, 11:22:02 PM
Ha  :D I bet that thing put up a pretty good fight.
At least you found some aggressive fish.

I really want to fish below the dam where the bigger fish are, but the water is skinny.
To load my boat by myself I pretty have to get in the water.
I carry knee high mucks for that! Also had to use the push pole a few times lately.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on September 23, 2020, 07:24:14 AM
Also had to use the push pole a few times lately.

Did you need the push pole to get off a rock or to get across a bigger shallow area?  One thing that scares the hell out of me is the prospect of getting into a spot that you can't get out of because you don't know the area. 

The gauge at HBG is at 2.9' with no rain in sight.  I wonder how low it will go?

Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on September 23, 2020, 08:00:08 AM
I carry knee high mucks for that! Also had to use the push pole a few times lately.

Will have to see if the mucks are high enough. The water is so low I got to get my crew cab truck about 1/2 in the water to load.
I haven't had to use a push pole yet.
Going to be windy today 20-25mph gusts
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on September 23, 2020, 09:06:14 AM
Will have to see if the mucks are high enough. The water is so low I got to get my crew cab truck about 1/2 in the water to load.
I haven't had to use a push pole yet.
Going to be windy today 20-25mph gusts
Sounds like you have to go in farther than me. I use the pole to stay away from grass at the shoreline, so I do not get grass in the intake. Got a little adventurous yesterday and had to pole off of rocks 2-3 times, where I couldn't get off with motor. Probably got stuck 3-5 miles per hour. I learned the hard way a few years ago, got stuck on a rock at 5 miles per hour plus at night. So I took all my clothes off, put on my life vest, and pushed her off.
I would sure hate to get stuck like that in cold water!
Phil
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on September 23, 2020, 09:10:55 AM
got stuck on a rock at 5 miles per hour plus at night. So I took all my clothes off, put on my life vest, and pushed her off.

Would you have gone skinny dipping in broad daylight?    ;D
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on September 23, 2020, 10:36:25 AM
Would you have gone skinny dipping in broad daylight?    ;D
NEWSFLASH
Old man arrested at Muddy Creek for indecent exposure!  ;D
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on September 23, 2020, 03:04:13 PM
Just wear a pair of speedo's under your jeans for such emergencies.  :-\

Our Skinny water ramp, at the end of the ramp it had a 2 ft drop. Looks like they fixed that by filling the end up with some good size stone.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on September 23, 2020, 06:30:24 PM
Did you need the push pole to get off a rock or to get across a bigger shallow area?  One thing that scares the hell out of me is the prospect of getting into a spot that you can't get out of because you don't know the area. 

The gauge at HBG is at 2.9' with no rain in sight.  I wonder how low it will go?
Just to get off of a rock. I have always gotten out. I would not push off to get in, that would be a no go. What is tricky for me is getting out with current. I will start the engine, pull up the trolling motor, and then idle out. If I cannot get in with the jet I do not go. I actually can do better in shallow areas with the jet and not the trolling motor.
Based on the mud line on my boat it must sit in the water 5" and the jet intake is 6"
Now that the river is low. I think its a good opportunity for marking spots. I wish I had a better sounder for marking. I have an old hand unit I might use to mark spots now, and transfer to a better sounder later. I got a crap sounder on both my boats.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on September 25, 2020, 08:42:58 AM
Phil
There are a lot of depth finders out there that are feature filled, and not that expensive.
That way You can mark way points. I know I am only using half of my depth finders features.
I have marked structure where I have caught multiple fish out in the middle of the river. Turns out it was a hump.

I like to find a shallow shoal in the summer and just see how much my boat drafts. It gives me somewhat of an idea how shallow of water my boat can be used in.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on September 25, 2020, 09:01:41 AM
Phil
There are a lot of depth finders out there that are feature filled, and not that expensive.
That way You can mark way points. I know I am only using half of my depth finders features.
I have marked structure where I have caught multiple fish out in the middle of the river. Turns out it was a hump.

I like to find a shallow shoal in the summer and just see how much my boat drafts. It gives me somewhat of an idea how shallow of water my boat can be used in.
I marked a bunch of spots yesterday with an old hand held Magellan. I know I can transfer later. I have used this for marking Raystown maps and ATV trails in Potter CO. Just a lot of work. I also use Motion X GPS. on the Iphone. I need a bigger screen. I did look for a used unit, but there does not seem to be much of a market there. I was hoping to find an older unit and use for GPS only. Built in maps would be essential.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: stonecat on September 26, 2020, 05:15:00 PM
   Looks like we may finally get some.https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?site=CTP&textField1=41.2389&textField2=-77.0377&e=0#.X2-rN6wkqP9 (https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?site=CTP&textField1=41.2389&textField2=-77.0377&e=0#.X2-rN6wkqP9)
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on September 26, 2020, 06:09:05 PM
   Looks like we may finally get some.https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?site=CTP&textField1=41.2389&textField2=-77.0377&e=0#.X2-rN6wkqP9 (https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?site=CTP&textField1=41.2389&textField2=-77.0377&e=0#.X2-rN6wkqP9)
Right now we will take all that we can get...Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on September 30, 2020, 07:56:14 AM
Well we picked up some much needed from this storm.
1.35" here in Williamsport. Not enough to really effect the river though.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on September 30, 2020, 09:00:39 AM
Yeah Marietta went up 0.15"  ;D
I am not complaining because  this low level is presenting some opportunities not there in heavier flows. Launching however has been a b____!
Phil
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: BigHam31 on October 03, 2020, 09:01:14 AM
Do you put in at Linden?  I have only ever put in there once and went down river, everyone else seemed to be going up river.  I showed up not knowing there was a tourny that day.

Is there enough water to run that section now?  I typically have been fishing the Juniata, but that stretch would actually be closer for me.  Great pics and thanks for any feedback!
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on October 03, 2020, 06:15:24 PM
Do you put in at Linden?  I have only ever put in there once and went down river, everyone else seemed to be going up river.  I showed up not knowing there was a tourny that day.

Is there enough water to run that section now?  I typically have been fishing the Juniata, but that stretch would actually be closer for me.  Great pics and thanks for any feedback!

Antlers launch which is renamed Linden launch has good water to put in. Good fishing up river 5-7' of water, A lot of people try to get up through Cranes riffles to fish which is almost impossible right now even in a jet.
Just up stream from railroad bridge is some cribs that hold fish. Heading up river approx 3 miles you will come to an island the water gets pretty skinny through that channel slightly less than 2'.
Fish commission still has marker buoys out. Not sure when they pull them.

Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on October 06, 2020, 07:46:58 AM
Fog advisory this morning. Wind advisory tomorrow.   :-[
Hopefully the fog clears off.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on October 06, 2020, 07:28:52 PM
Foggy this morning as mentioned previous post, water temp 59 degrees.
We put in at the Greevy launch below the dam. Main channel water 1.6' below the launch. Above the launch 3-5'

We have been working for everything were catching. Hopefully things will get better.
Going to try and get out a couple evenings here.
No pictures, but we seen a pair of Eagles down where we was fishing.

(https://i.imgur.com/onNnsqo.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZsHu08E.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/fiSG4xH.jpg)
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: DRY on October 06, 2020, 09:14:39 PM
Great pictures...better than a thousand words. Thanks

I miss early fall fishing but at 75...I just can't push myself out there considering the low fish density and the low water. But it is a beautiful time of the year.

Bill

Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on October 06, 2020, 09:40:16 PM
Great pictures...better than a thousand words. Thanks

I miss early fall fishing but at 75...I just can't push myself out there considering the low fish density and the low water. But it is a beautiful time of the year.

Bill
Bill Thanks
Fall sure is a nice time of year. It's funny because last year high water was somewhat of a problem in the fall. This year low water and wind have been a challenge.

I still look at the pictures of the fish you caught over the winter. All them fish was beautiful 👍
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on October 11, 2020, 01:12:28 PM
They pulled the docks at the Greevy launch  :(
Just makes it harder for 1 person to put in and take out.

Hurricane Delta doesn't appear that it's going to have that much impact up here. Maybe raise the river a foot, It won't make it to normal summer pool depth of 1.35" . But every bit helps...
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on October 11, 2020, 05:56:17 PM
went down Muddy Creek today. beat the rain. they actually had the level up pretty good
(https://i.imgur.com/ipulldjm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Izd3UhWm.jpg)
Grandson said the ned rig rules
Phil
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on October 13, 2020, 09:43:52 AM
They pulled the docks at the Greevy launch  :(
Just makes it harder for 1 person to put in and take out.

I have never figured out what the timing is for that.  One year I went out at dawn and the docks were in, and when I got back to the ramp at noon they were out.  It isn't too bad as long as you are prepared for it and there aren't idiots around.  I saw someone launch once and just leave the trailer in the water on the ramp for hours until he was ready to leave.

Hurricane Delta doesn't appear that it's going to have that much impact up here. Maybe raise the river a foot, It won't make it to normal summer pool depth of 1.35" . But every bit helps...

I don't think we got even a half inch of rain.  HBG gauge went from 3.05 to 3.10.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on October 13, 2020, 10:33:52 AM
Safe Harbor states 0.3" yesterday
Went up to Bass Pro Shop yesterday. I do not fish up that way but it looked crazy low to me!
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on October 13, 2020, 07:10:31 PM
went down Muddy Creek today. beat the rain. they actually had the level up pretty good
(https://i.imgur.com/ipulldjm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Izd3UhWm.jpg)
Grandson said the ned rig rules
Phil

Phil good to see you getting the Grandson out...Start them young!
Tell him that was a nice fish!

Zelmo
No rhyme or reason on the docks. They never got put in till July 1st. A lot of people use that launch in October.
Both my boats I can now launch/load without docks. But with just one person it makes it a little harder.

Went to a local lake today for a little change of pace...Rose Valley Lake. The water level on the lake is the lowest I have ever seen it.

(https://i.imgur.com/kxqFuEd.jpg)

Took the youngest son with me again. Caught a couple on spinner baits. He gave me a lesson.  ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/XzMovNM.jpg)

If the wind behaves tomorrow, might take the jet Jon out .
Both days we only picked up .50" of rain. Below the 1.5" they was calling for.
Friday I guess is our next chance for rain.
River really hasn't budged just holding steady.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on October 14, 2020, 08:13:05 AM
Phil good to see you getting the Grandson out...Start them young!
Tell him that was a nice fish!

Zelmo
No rhyme or reason on the docks. They never got put in till July 1st. A lot of people use that launch in October.
Both my boats I can now launch/load without docks. But with just one person it makes it a little harder.

Went to a local lake today for a little change of pace...Rose Valley Lake. The water level on the lake is the lowest I have ever seen it.

(https://i.imgur.com/kxqFuEd.jpg)

Took the youngest son with me again. Caught a couple on spinner baits. He gave me a lesson.  ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/XzMovNM.jpg)

If the wind behaves tomorrow, might take the jet Jon out .
Both days we only picked up .50" of rain. Below the 1.5" they was calling for.
Friday I guess is our next chance for rain.
River really hasn't budged just holding steady.
My grandson caught more than me! I know a hunt club has a little tournament there each year, just past the bridge: we call that the pickerel patch. Walleye always wins.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on October 15, 2020, 06:10:15 PM
My grandson caught more than me! I know a hunt club has a little tournament there each year, just past the bridge: we call that the pickerel patch. Walleye always wins.

Good for him!
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on October 20, 2020, 04:50:56 PM
Today turned out better than they was predicting. River was like glass.
(https://i.imgur.com/iKyc1xi.jpg)

Jet life in the fall  :-\
(https://i.imgur.com/sTblaLX.jpg)
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on October 20, 2020, 08:05:10 PM
Were those leaves floating on the surface?
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on October 20, 2020, 09:45:44 PM
Yep the leaves was on the surface.
I was running about 25mph up and back. About 4 mile run one way.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on October 21, 2020, 07:59:57 AM
Were those leaves floating on the surface?
I would like to see a picture of the intake on your new boat. I also wonder how it will handle the debris.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on October 21, 2020, 08:16:42 AM
I would like to see a picture of the intake on your new boat. I also wonder how it will handle the debris.

I can't take a good picture with the way I have it backed into the garage.  I will do that the next time I pull it out.  This picture is from the build.

(https://i.imgur.com/0RW6d9Q.jpg)

It does have a manual stomp gate that you can see in this picture.

(https://i.imgur.com/KeouEYS.jpg)

There was an option for a pneumatically operated one from the helm but it would have been a backorder, so I decided to try the manual and save some money.  I can always add it later.

Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on October 21, 2020, 09:02:35 AM
I am guessing that allows you to push away debris?
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on October 21, 2020, 09:18:59 AM
Yes.  There are "fingers" that go down through the openings in the grate to push stuff out.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on October 21, 2020, 10:14:47 AM
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Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on October 23, 2020, 08:42:48 PM
The bite sure hasn't been good up here. The fish have gotten bigger but they aren't really biting.
Have to work hard for everything you catch. Not to mention it has been pretty windy.
Talked to a good fishermen today and the other day he didn't catch a thing.

How is everyone else making out?
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on October 23, 2020, 11:00:37 PM
I donít have them figured out this year.  The water is unusually low and clear and there is still a lot of grass.  I have been picking off singles but havenít found any wolf packs. 
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on October 24, 2020, 08:37:36 AM
The bite sure hasn't been good up here. The fish have gotten bigger but they aren't really biting.
Have to work hard for everything you catch. Not to mention it has been pretty windy.
Talked to a good fishermen today and the other day he didn't catch a thing.

How is everyone else making out?
I retired spring of 2017. Prior to that because of work and travel my only regular fishing was Raystown in the spring. From 2000 to about 2006 stopped going to Raystown because the fishing at the Lower Conowingo was great! I went back to Raystown when that area declined. Mostly fish the summer on the river. I keep a general log on fishing. 2017 I put a mechanical counter on the jon, to easily count the fish. I have to cover at night because it is not waterproof. I remove for winter.
I did not put it back on this year due to low counts.
These are all river numbers:
2017 70 days 700 bass, best day 39 fish
2018 41 days 497 bass (numbers were doing better than 2017 until the rains started), best day 34 fish
2019 50 days 348 bass (average fish per day was going down), best day 20 fish
2020 I stopped keeping a log. I only had one day over 20 fish. I see very few shad surface breaks. No crayfish spit ups.
This is all here say: I know of a guy that used to tournament fish. He said the talk out of Susquehanna tackle is the flatheads are a big problem. He has not had a good year. I met a fisherman who said since the rains in 2018 he has not done well at the mouth of Muddy Creek.
I am gong to Raystown this AM, fishing Weaver Falls with jet.
Phil
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on October 24, 2020, 09:48:10 AM
Zelmo the low water and weeds has definitely been a challenge this year.
I was catching some bass in weed pockets earlier. But we're losing the weeds.

Phil that's a nice and simple system you had to keep track of your catch. Some decent numbers!
This year I have had a few days with over 20 fish but most everything around 11-12" ...no size.
Spring I was doing some shore fishing and was catching some bigger fish. 16-21"
I still think that November is going to get better. I will probably fish till the river gets ice.

Anybody else out there?? Would be Intrested in reading how your doing.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on October 24, 2020, 10:22:19 AM
Zelmo the low water and weeds has definitely been a challenge this year.
I was catching some bass in weed pockets earlier. But we're losing the weeds.

Phil that's a nice and simple system you had to keep track of your catch. Some decent numbers!
This year I have had a few days with over 20 fish but most everything around 11-12" ...no size.
Spring I was doing some shore fishing and was catching some bigger fish. 16-21"
I still think that November is going to get better. I will probably fish till the river gets ice.

Anybody else out there?? Would be Intrested in reading how your doing.
I have been hoping for a good "northern" report!
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on October 27, 2020, 05:20:02 PM
Sunday I went fishing above the dam. Tough conditions...Windy and cold.
Didnt even have a bite. Brutal...

We put in below the dam today using the smaller jet. The water is so low we had to push the boat off the trailer. Not even enough water to float the boat.
Hoping we soon pick up some rain.
(https://i.imgur.com/VKpC7ek.jpg)

The fish bite was again slow today. My son catching the big fish...again  :)   Water temp was 58 degrees.

(https://i.imgur.com/ilF6rAW.jpg)

Would love to hear anybody else's fishing reports.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on October 27, 2020, 10:13:12 PM
I went out of Goldsboro today. I was much later than normal and didnít get on the water until 10:00.

I decided to try some new spots but they didnít produce. Hitting my normal places didnít do much better.

I was out of the water at 2:00 and had 3 for my efforts.  At least they were decent fish in the 18Ē range. 
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on October 28, 2020, 08:29:08 AM
I went out of Goldsboro today. I was much later than normal and didnít get on the water until 10:00.

I decided to try some new spots but they didnít produce. Hitting my normal places didnít do much better.

I was out of the water at 2:00 and had 3 for my efforts.  At least they were decent fish in the 18Ē range.
Sounds good to me!
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on October 28, 2020, 09:01:02 AM
I went out of Goldsboro today. I was much later than normal and didnít get on the water until 10:00.

I decided to try some new spots but they didnít produce. Hitting my normal places didnít do much better.

I was out of the water at 2:00 and had 3 for my efforts.  At least they were decent fish in the 18Ē range.
They are nice fish!
A Fisherman was discussing with me with the low water he still thinks the fish are in the summer mode.

Well rain is on the way maybe 2-3", won't cure drought conditions but sure should help.
Maybe a mix of snow above I-80 and above Route 6 snow.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on October 28, 2020, 12:44:08 PM

A Fisherman was discussing with me with the low water he still thinks the fish are in the summer mode.


I would beg to differ because I am not finding them where I was catching them in the summer as well as just a few weeks ago.  I am also not finding them where I usually do this time of year. 

I believe that they have made some sort of move but that it is different this year due to the low water.  It will be interesting to see what happens with the rain that is in the forecast. 
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on October 28, 2020, 06:58:14 PM
I would beg to differ because I am not finding them where I was catching them in the summer as well as just a few weeks ago.  I am also not finding them where I usually do this time of year. 

I believe that they have made some sort of move but that it is different this year due to the low water.  It will be interesting to see what happens with the rain that is in the forecast.

I somewhat agree with you on summer phase,the bigger fish have started to show up but not much bit.
Must be in the 2020 phase  :D
Totally agree with the rain forecast, I want to see what the higher water levels bring.

The last couple times out the fish have been in the deeper water 8-9'
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on November 02, 2020, 04:21:47 PM
Yep the leaves was on the surface.
I was running about 25mph up and back. About 4 mile run one way.

The leaves must be getting worse?
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 03, 2020, 11:49:39 AM
The leaves appeared to be getting a little worse on Saturday. The further upstream you go the worse it got. Plus now you got some weeds letting loose also.
The worst thing has been the wind the last 3 days. Hopefully it will get most of the leaves off the trees.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 04, 2020, 04:06:58 PM
Got out this morning, air temp was 30 degrees, but it turned out to be a beautiful day.
Water temp is down to 45 degrees. I launched from the Greevy Launch below the dam.
Didn't catch a fish which is pretty disgusting. But enjoyed the time on the water.
Lures tried: Ned,Senko,top water, 3" twister tail and a Nikko craw.
Hope to get back out Friday.

Anybody catching anything?

edit:
(https://i.imgur.com/qTqeQNC.jpg)
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on November 04, 2020, 04:20:45 PM
I made the maiden run today.  Didnít get going until 10:30 and did more running than fishing.  I did manage to catch one
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 04, 2020, 04:52:32 PM
I made the maiden run today.  Didnít get going until 10:30 and did more running than fishing.  I did manage to catch one
Good to hear you finally got it out on the water. Them test runs will answer a lot of questions or doubts.
How did the boat load for you?
And best part is, you caught a fish with the new boat.👍
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on November 04, 2020, 07:39:26 PM
Good to hear you finally got it out on the water. Them test runs will answer a lot of questions or doubts.
How did the boat load for you?
And best part is, you caught a fish with the new boat.👍

It is very different than what I am used to.   First off putting the Drotto on was a great idea.  When I got to the ramp the docks had been pulled so I was immediately facing the main reason I put it on.  After being overly cautious at first I got in the boat and fired it up.  Went to the bow and pulled the leaver.   The rollers did their job and I was immediately off the trailer and was able to beach it to park the truck. 

Loading was even better.  I lined it up and gave it some gas when I started up onto the trailer.  It easily rolled up to the Drotto and latched.  I just killed the motor and climbed off the bow and onto the tailgate. I never got wet. 

Performance isnít great yet as it is still in break-in mode.  I am limited to about 2/3 power until I get 4 hours on it.  If the weather stays good that shouldnít take long.

The thing that is going to take time learning is how the jet moves the boat.  In ďneutralĒ it is still moving water and will spin the boat around in a circle.  I can see that being useful but it is definitely an acquired skill. 
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 05, 2020, 06:14:44 AM
Glad it was easy off/easy on for you. Looks like we're going to be experiencing Steptember weather here for the next 4-5 days. So you might as well take advantage of it.
Enjoy your new boat!
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on November 05, 2020, 10:51:20 AM
The thing that is going to take time learning is how the jet moves the boat.  In ďneutralĒ it is still moving water and will spin the boat around in a circle.  I can see that being useful but it is definitely an acquired skill.
Thatís interesting. Just a FYI, my tiller jet performs a little differently than that. In neutral there is negligible thrust. In gear obviously the boat moves forward. Idle rpm not in-gear is based on the low end timing. The RPM in-gear is based on an adjustment. Since my tiller does not have a regulator all settings are done by ear and a timing light. I basically set  the forward idle speed such that to go from neutral to in-gear results in no significant ďjerking.Ē     

Being able to load without boots is great!!   8)
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on November 05, 2020, 05:35:18 PM
Thatís interesting. Just a FYI, my tiller jet performs a little differently than that. In neutral there is negligible thrust. In gear obviously the boat moves forward. Idle rpm not in-gear is based on the low end timing. The RPM in-gear is based on an adjustment. Since my tiller does not have a regulator all settings are done by ear and a timing light. I basically set  the forward idle speed such that to go from neutral to in-gear results in no significant ďjerking.Ē     
   8)

The Rotax jet nozzle shoot water to the front from both sides and to the rear to achieve neutral.  If you turn the wheel more comes out one side than the other, pushing the stern in that direction.  It will actually spin in place (ignoring current.)

The other thing I am not used to is the shifter also being the throttle.  My Triton has a foot pedal for gas and the shifter just for F-N-R.  I know that is not the norm but it is what I am used to.  Couple that with the spin and I have already had a couple of oh sh*t moments.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on November 05, 2020, 05:59:41 PM
Good thing is cannot bust off a skeg!
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on November 05, 2020, 07:09:40 PM
Good thing is cannot bust off a skeg!

True, but I do have an expensive transducer back there. 
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 05, 2020, 08:14:59 PM
True, but I do have an expensive transducer back there. 
Zelmo I have seen a few of them hardcore skinny water guys with their transducers zip tied  :).
Or even missing when they pulled out.

Good thing is cannot bust off a skeg!

Phil it's good not having to worry about a prop.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on November 06, 2020, 08:04:29 AM
Zelmo I have seen a few of them hardcore skinny water guys with their transducers zip tied  :).
Or even missing when they pulled out.
My bracket broke. Left it hanging for a while. I have used all sorts of superglue and usually it holds until some pressure is applied. Finally glued it with Gorilla super glue gel. And it has held. I made sure the transducer was about 1/8" from the bottom using straight edge. I still cannot believe it worked. Been out 3-4 times and still holding.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 06, 2020, 05:33:59 PM
Got out today above the dam. Showed up at the launch and they took the docks out this week.
Leaves was plentiful on the river, but it didn't seem to cause me any problems.
Pretty good boat traffic on the river for this time of year, maybe a dozen boats.
Water temp varied between 45 -47 degrees.
I had a pretty good today...sniffing them out with a rebel crayfish. And followed up with a Ned or hair jig to pick up a few more.


I'm not a good one for taking pictures especially when I am by myself. Guess I need some lessons  ;D
(https://i.imgur.com/FOV6nIh.jpg)
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on November 07, 2020, 06:48:56 AM
Got out today above the dam. Showed up at the launch and they took the docks out this week.
Leaves was plentiful on the river, but it didn't seem to cause me any problems.
Pretty good boat traffic on the river for this time of year, maybe a dozen boats.
Water temp varied between 45 -47 degrees.
I had a pretty good today...sniffing them out with a rebel crayfish. And followed up with a Ned or hair jig to pick up a few more.


I'm not a good one for taking pictures especially when I am by myself. Guess I need some lessons  ;D
(https://i.imgur.com/FOV6nIh.jpg)
I am noticing with the cell almost all my photos look the same! ;D
Going out Wrightsville this AM. Going to see how hard it is to get to the rocks! I figure anywhere else there will be a ton of boats.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 08, 2020, 08:32:22 AM
Was out yesterday morning, another beautiful day!
But I had problems with the leaves clogging my jet yesterday.
It would clog I would shut my motor down and fish for about 5 minutes until the leaves come off.
Only one fish....
I can't get a hit on a jerkbait at all. I lost my Rebel Crawfish that I have been fishing all season with...on a sunken log yesterday.  :-[

Anybody else getting out fishing with this nice weather?
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on November 08, 2020, 09:47:56 AM
I am noticing with the cell almost all my photos look the same! ;D
Going out Wrightsville this AM. Going to see how hard it is to get to the rocks! I figure anywhere else there will be a ton of boats.

How was the Wrightsville trip?

Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on November 08, 2020, 09:52:01 AM
Was out yesterday morning, another beautiful day!
But I had problems with the leaves clogging my jet yesterday.
It would clog I would shut my motor down and fish for about 5 minutes until the leaves come off.
Only one fish....
I can't get a hit on a jerkbait at all. I lost my Rebel Crawfish that I have been fishing all season with...on a sunken log yesterday.  :-[

Anybody else getting out fishing with this nice weather?

The weather is too nice!  I went out of Fort Hunter on Friday.  Bluebird skies made the fishing tough for everyone that was on the water.  I got 2 and my rider got 6.  He was outcasting me which was needed in the gin clear water.

Tried going out of Amity Hall on the Juniata yesterday.  That trip only lasted a couple of hours as the water was just too shallow and there were no signs of activity.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on November 08, 2020, 09:52:41 AM
I went out from Wrightsville yesterday and headed to the rocks downstream. No problem, but I would not launch there with a larger boat and head to the rocks - you will not make it. Water temp was 50 degrees. Waited until 9AM for some warmth. Probably a mistake: no fish and water is ultra clear. Tried to just fish the shadows Saw many boats below the rocks. Got stuck one time and pushed off with the emer paddle.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 09, 2020, 06:47:33 AM
Thanks for the updates!
 I thought maybe with water temps stabilizing some, that the bite would turn on.
But has been hit and miss.
Hopefully get back out again Tuesday.

Phil sounds like you have been hitting the skinny water.

Zelmo you getting some hours on your boat?

Now we just need some water.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on November 09, 2020, 07:12:08 AM
Phil sounds like you have been hitting the skinny water.
When I was coming back I saw a guy in a motorized kayak. He had to pull his motor up. At least I know I can get there from that ramp. I'd say most of that water was 2' until you get to the rocks. Though a slow run it is a lot less time than coming up from lower ramps which is about 3.5 miles.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on November 10, 2020, 07:17:49 AM


Zelmo you getting some hours on your boat?

Now we just need some water.

After my experience on the Juniata Saturday I didn't go out Sunday.  Yesterday I took it to Frederic where I know the shallow spots.  Went many places I wouldn't dare try with the Triton with the river this low, mainly exploring.  I did manage to catch one.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on November 10, 2020, 07:49:07 AM
I went out Chickees Rock launch last night. Finally getting the boat off easy again. Loaded with knee high boots. Had a few short strikes before sundown. The sun was brutal! Seemed like when they took the ned rig they always ran towards the boat. Switched to a tube and fishing picked up at sundown 6-7 fish. Stayed out about 1/2 hour after sundown. 53 degrees on water. Chickees is not lit so the navionics app helped me return!
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 11, 2020, 08:32:47 AM
I got out Tuesday Morning...Boy was it foggy, but again it ended up being another beautiful day.
Only 1 fish...about ready to give the river a break until we get more flow.
Leaves was somewhat of a problem again.

Launch
(https://i.imgur.com/nWQuW6h.jpg)

railroad bridge
(https://i.imgur.com/3Pniqec.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uFbWbXP.jpg)

Phil I did run up to Cranes riffles, though they might be stacking up at the bottom of the hole but not a bite. Not near enough water to get through.
The first shale ledge was about 2" underwater.

Zelmo glad to see your getting your boat out and getting use to it. That thing is a beast.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on November 11, 2020, 08:43:39 AM
I got out Tuesday Morning...Boy was it foggy, but again it ended up being another beautiful day.


I expected some fog Monday morning as the dew point was just below the actual temperature but there was just some spots of it.  I didn't go yesterday as the honey-do list was getting large (actually I spent most of the day detailing the Corvette.)  When I saw that fog in the morning I was glad I didn't go.

That brings up a question - do any of you change your plans when you get to the ramp and see fog like that?  I never have and at times have felt foolish being out because it was so dense.  I am usually on the water at first light and if we are to have fog it usually doesn't develop until right after that, so I get to a spot and stay there.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on November 11, 2020, 08:46:39 AM
I carry knee high mucks for that! Also had to use the push pole a few times lately.

Phil, what are you using for a push pole?

I thought I was going to be able to use a Frabill telescoping lure retriever that I have. I put a Cush-It on the end that goes in the water so I wasn't trying to push on the small hard plastic end. I had to use it and it did work, but silt and gravel got inside. I had to take it apart and clean it out to get it to work smoothly again. I don't want to be doing that all the time.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 11, 2020, 09:25:49 AM
When I was coming back I saw a guy in a motorized kayak. He had to pull his motor up. At least I know I can get there from that ramp. I'd say most of that water was 2' until you get to the rocks. Though a slow run it is a lot less time than coming up from lower ramps which is about 3.5 miles.
The motorized kayaks is pretty neat! Was checking them out.
https://www.mokai.com/

Zelmo
It was no fun running in that kind of fog. Probably the worst I have run in, on Tuesday.
If I had to do it over again I probably would have held off. Another factor would be on how far I was planning on running. Couple hundred Yards or a few miles.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on November 11, 2020, 09:41:13 AM


Zelmo
It was no fun running in that kind of fog. Probably the worst I have run in on Tuesday.
If I had to do it over again I probably would have held off. Another factor would be on how far I was planning on running. Couple hundred Yards or a few miles.

I hear you.  I was out one day last December when it got miserable.  It was a fairly warm day and I was about 4 miles down river.  There had been a mist/drizzle all morning but then it turned into dense fog.  I wanted to get back to the ramp but not at idle so I ran via GPS at about 28 - 30 mph which is the slowest the Triton will go on plane.  I wasn't concerned about other boats because I was the only one stupid enough to be out.  In retrospect that wasn't a real good move.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on November 11, 2020, 04:57:33 PM
Phil, what are you using for a push pole?
I have had this pole over 30 years. I think it is called  "duck foot." I will take a picture tomorrow. Who knows if they make it anymore? I do not use it often, but it is handy.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on November 12, 2020, 04:53:07 AM
I swear I posted this last night! I am surprised this is still available, must have good sales. I never telescope it, but you can.
https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/cabelas-northern-flight-push-pole-duck-marsh-foot-attachment (https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/cabelas-northern-flight-push-pole-duck-marsh-foot-attachment)
https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/cabelas-northern-flight-telescopic-push-pole (https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/cabelas-northern-flight-telescopic-push-pole)
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on November 12, 2020, 07:54:54 AM
I swear I posted this last night! I am surprised this is still available, must have good sales. I never telescope it, but you can.
https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/cabelas-northern-flight-push-pole-duck-marsh-foot-attachment (https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/cabelas-northern-flight-push-pole-duck-marsh-foot-attachment)
https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/cabelas-northern-flight-telescopic-push-pole (https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/cabelas-northern-flight-telescopic-push-pole)

I had found that, and to be honest the low price scared me off.  If you have been using it for 30 years that is good enoungh.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 13, 2020, 09:02:45 PM
For a push pole-mostly in the Jon. I have been using an Attwood 10' pole with a hook which was probably from the 70's. Comes in handy
For this new boat, I am probably going to use a piece of black 1 3/8" fence top rail.something that will fit in my rod locker.

River is up 3'...I'm going to try and get out tomorrow morning sometime.

Sunday looks like more rain is coming. 1/4 to 1/2"
Next week looks cold.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on November 13, 2020, 10:19:40 PM
For a push pole-mostly in the Jon. I have been using an Attwood 10' pole with a hook which was probably from the 70's. Comes in handy
For this new boat, I am probably going to use a piece of black 1 3/8" fence top rail.something that will fit in my rod locker.

River is up 3'...I'm going to try and get out tomorrow morning sometime.

Sunday looks like more rain is coming. 1/4 to 1/2"
Next week looks cold.

Not just cold next week, there is supposed to be wind with it.  Those are conditions that I am not fond of. 
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 14, 2020, 04:27:59 PM
Not just cold next week, there is supposed to be wind with it.  Those are conditions that I am not fond of.
Both them conditions I'm not fond of either. But the cold is easier to deal with.

I got out this morning...Air temp was 30 degrees and it was windy down on the river, Which I wasn't expecting that kind of wind.
River is currently over 3' with leaves and tree branches floating down the river, Also it is off color. That's a 3 foot raise for us. which is great!!
Water temp is down to 47.2 degrees. I had a couple bites on a hair jig but nothing in the boat.  :)
Baits used today...Ned, whacky Senko, Rebel crayfish and hair jig.

The Jet motor was hungry today  :o

(https://i.imgur.com/oDsxaIi.jpg)

Any thoughts on what to throw when the bite is tough? I like hearing suggestions.


Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on November 15, 2020, 09:43:18 AM
Any thoughts on what to throw when the bite is tough? I like hearing suggestions.

I know that you are familiar with the Willies.  You can try them in the various sizes as well as smaller tubes in addition to what you are already using.  Jerkbaits might also work.

I always have a problem figuring out if the bite is tough or I am fishing the wrong areas.  Back in 2015 I was having a slow day in early November until around noon when I found some fish.  I caught 23 in an hour, all over 18".  When I got back to the ramp everyone was complaining about how tough the bite was.  They were astounded at the luck I had.

I went back to that spot over the next several weeks and it always produced.  Time of day didn't matter nor did conditions.  Remembering that I went back there again in 11/2016 and had the same success.  Needless to say I have tried it every year since but the fish aren't there any more.

Sometimes I think we are just fishing the wrong spots when we aren't catching.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 15, 2020, 06:03:28 PM
Zelmo
I agree with what your saying about finding the fish. And just being in the right spot.
 This year has been a chore trying to find the fish.

At least now we have enough water we can try and find them stacked behind breaks and points.
A few spots was tough to get to, with the shallow water.

I haven't been able to get a hit with a swim bait or a jerk bait in November.

I don't have any of the Willies but I might have to order some. Dry sure showed us they catch fish.
Phil and you have had good luck with them.

Thanks for your Thoughts.

My next outing was going to be Tuesday, but right now for us...they are calling for rain/snow and wind.
With that combo my coal stove and coffee wins out.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on November 16, 2020, 10:08:32 AM
Dry has also reported good luck with various soft jerkbaits or flukes.  I have tried them but never caught anything on them.  I have had luck with small worms on Slider Heads, which I guess you could classify as being about the same.  Also try 4Ē kut tail worms on spider heads. 
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 16, 2020, 04:35:56 PM
Dry has also reported good luck with various soft jerkbaits or flukes.  I have tried them but never caught anything on them.  I have had luck with small worms on Slider Heads, which I guess you could classify as being about the same.  Also try 4Ē kut tail worms on spider heads.

I have been fishing slider heads with a 3-4" Senko worm. And they have caught a few fish.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 21, 2020, 04:38:48 PM
Got out this morning for about 4 hours...Not a fish. Was just trying some different areas.
Water temp has dropped to 39 degrees.
Actually at least 1/2 dozen boats out on the water this morning.
Still have a dock at the Arch st. launch. Was told they was going to be taken out 3 weeks ago. Happy they are still in.  :)

(https://i.imgur.com/znLY52D.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UIE20VT.jpg)

Imgur was down yesterday, added a couple of pics.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: DRY on November 21, 2020, 05:26:10 PM
Got out this morning for about 4 hours...Not a fish. Was just trying some different areas.
Water temp has dropped to 39 degrees.
Actually at least 1/2 dozen boats out on the water this morning.

Chipper/shredded leaves and limbs all day but I was tempted to fish due to the cloudy conditions. Now I'm watching Penn State get shredded.
Gonna try it tomorrow...the only issue will be the clear,low water but I'm banking on the clouds to overcome that problem. Danville water temp around 43F.

Bill
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 22, 2020, 10:08:41 AM
Chipper/shredded leaves and limbs all day but I was tempted to fish due to the cloudy conditions. Now I'm watching Penn State get shredded.
Gonna try it tomorrow...the only issue will be the clear,low water but I'm banking on the clouds to overcome that problem. Danville water temp around 43F.

Bill

Dry
It was a nice day for fishing, Just need to figure out where they are stacking up. Been trying some deep water spots.
Good Luck today!
Doug
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: DRY on November 22, 2020, 02:00:23 PM
Dry
It was a nice day for fishing, Just need to figure out where they are stacking up. Been trying some deep water spots.
Good Luck today!
Doug

Got out about 11 AM...calm wind...water temp 44F...overcast ... all good but the water had fallen another 6 inches and was clear as glass... not good...I think I could wade across the river if I tried.

Snagged 2 Quillback carpsuckers...

(https://i.imgur.com/qJRfGaj.jpg)

And landed 2 smallmouth...this 3.5 pounder deserved a picture.

(https://i.imgur.com/VV9B7al.jpg)


Water levels are my problem now for wading...without rain I may wind up back at the range...providing I can find ammo.

Bill
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on November 22, 2020, 06:02:21 PM
Hi Bill,

Went out Marietta today. Lost one big walleye and no other action. Just a little wind but it was the dreaded coming up the river wind. Almost in full winter gear!
Nice photographs.
Phil
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 22, 2020, 10:04:46 PM
Dry
Sounds like you might get a rise in river in the next day with this rain tonight. Hopefully it will also cloudy the water a little too.
Again some nice fish! Thanks for sharing!

Phil
Them river runs on them cold mornings are brutal. I have a heavy hooded, wind and rain proof jacket for them runs,makes it a little more bearable.

Zelmo
How you making out with that new boat? Getting settled in with it?

Hope to get out again on Tuesday.

Doug
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on November 22, 2020, 11:20:17 PM

Zelmo
How you making out with that new boat? Getting settled in with it?

Yes, but I am turning into a real wuss.  I donít want to go if it is too windy, raining, or crowded.  I avoid weekends if possible.  My goal is to get out once a week and if conditions are right I will go more.

Phil was kind enough to go out of Muddy Run with me so I could mark tracks through the rocks.  Even though this rig is a tank I donít want to take any unnecessary chances.  We didnít catch any fish but that wasnít the primary objective. 

I want to try Fort Hunter on either Tuesday or Friday this week but I donít know what to expect for crowds.  I may swing by there tomorrow while I am running errands to see how busy it is.  If itís a zoo I will go somewhere else. 
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 23, 2020, 06:42:51 AM
Zelmo
Up here things aren't to busy. During the week less than 1/2 dozen boats,weekends maybe a dozen.
I don't blame you for not wanting to beat your new boat up. Just nice knowing you have a boat that you can run in skinny water.

Glad to hear you got a chance to get out with Phil. Sounds like Phil is pretty seasoned with his Jon.
That's really makes it nice having someone showing you hazards and dangers in a section of river.

Black Friday there is a Toys for Tots Tournament up here that got moved from Sunbury.
I'm not going to fish it. Not really my thing.
Sometimes I do like to see where people are fishing.  I will probably go see the weigh in and see how ppl made out.

Doug
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 24, 2020, 04:02:51 PM
31 degrees this morning clear skies,water temp 42 degrees...It was cold. Took the Jon out and went in the skinny water this morning.
(https://i.imgur.com/6jmdp5W.jpg)


Caught this one which was 18'...measured
Also caught a few others, they really wasn't in real deep water this morning. Main channel is approx 2' of water with some deeper pockets.
 Overall not to bad of a morning.
(https://i.imgur.com/vgSPaPJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: DRY on November 24, 2020, 05:12:57 PM
You did well for such conditions.
I walked the shoreline for exercise this afternoon but nada.
Maybe if I had gone out like you did in the morning I night have found a couple...bright sun this PM
Beautiful day... to which your pictures do absolutely attest.

Bill
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on November 24, 2020, 05:18:12 PM
31 degrees this morning clear skies,water temp 42 degrees...It was cold. Took the Jon out and went in the skinny water this morning.
(https://i.imgur.com/6jmdp5W.jpg)


Caught this one which was 18'...measured
Also caught a few others, they really wasn't in real deep water this morning. Main channel is approx 2' of water with some deeper pockets.
 Overall not to bad of a morning.
(https://i.imgur.com/vgSPaPJ.jpg)
Nice fish!!
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 24, 2020, 05:54:46 PM
You did well for such conditions.
I walked the shoreline for exercise this afternoon but nada.
Maybe if I had gone out like you did in the morning I night have found a couple...bright sun this PM
Beautiful day... to which your pictures do absolutely attest.

Bill

Dry
Bright sun and shallow water kind of surprised me. Not what I was really expecting, but not complaining.
Still have to give the boat a push off the trailer to launch. Still Skinny even with the rain.

Phil
Thanks!
 Still no consistency with the fish but that 18' helps.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on November 24, 2020, 07:15:57 PM
Well done.  Is the water still clear?  I am surprised that you found them in shallow water.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 24, 2020, 09:12:30 PM
Well done.  Is the water still clear?  I am surprised that you found them in shallow water.

Zelmo
Water is fairly clear but with the recent rain, it has a slight tint to it. Not totally clear.
Not really sure what was holding them fish there. Not a whole lot of structure.
I have caught fish down river about 100 yards when there was higher water.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 28, 2020, 08:45:57 PM
Took my fishing rod for a good walk today...no fish  :-[
It was pretty windy that's why I didn't take the boat out.

Toys for Tots tournament yesterday. 31 boats fishing, quite a few boats didn't weigh fish in.
Winning weight was 11.25 lb- 5 fish
Lunker was 2.89 lb

Zelmo saw a boat that was the same make as yours. Was impressed with it.
Also saw my first Snyder boat there. Was impressed with that too. Had to smile he almost got in trouble with that. Run the back side of an island that barely has water. Said he was doing a lot of scraping on gravel but didn't let up.

Looks like up here we might hit 3' of water by Tuesday which is good. Maybe fish will start stacking.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 30, 2020, 09:09:13 AM
I got out for a little bit on Sunday. 26 degrees in the morning . High ended up being 52 but the wind became a problem in the afternoon.
Did a lot of running, made it up through Cranes riffles but didn't get any hits up there. Main channel there was 2.2' and fast moving. Got to love them Jets!
Only 1 fish for yesterday,probably around 13" didn't even bother measuring. "ned"

This week isn't looking to great...Rain today,chance of snow tomorrow and then onto colder temps.
The river is going to get a slight boost. I like fishing with 5' of water.

(https://i.imgur.com/PtsfSLV.png)
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: zelmo on November 30, 2020, 10:05:49 AM
I got out for a little bit on Sunday. 26 degrees in the morning . High ended up being 52 but the wind became a problem in the afternoon.
Did a lot of running, made it up through Cranes riffles but didn't get any hits up there. Main channel there was 2.2' and fast moving. Got to love them Jets!
Only 1 fish for yesterday,probably around 13" didn't even bother measuring. "ned"

This week isn't looking to great...Rain today,chance of snow tomorrow and then onto colder temps.
The river is going to get a slight boost. I like fishing with 5' of water.


I know the weather was great yesterday but it was Sunday and I try to avoid fishing on weekends.  Since I got out on Friday I decided to get some stuff done the wife has been bugging me about.  I also used the nice weather to put up the outdoor Christmas lights.  While I would never label that chore as pleasurable warmer temps make it much more bearable.

I am looking forward to the river rising, and I don't care what the temps are.  I have been waiting for more water to try some new ramps and sections of the river for me.  I plan to idle around and take note of depths.  Fishing will be secondary.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on November 30, 2020, 01:54:19 PM
Zelmo
This time of year I don't have to worry about weekend traffic a whole lot. 2 boats where I launched Sunday.
The latest river forecast for me they have knocked it down to 4.5',  from the 5.4' which is still ok.
Glad your going to be able to test some ramps out. It will give you some idea what your running in depth wise.
Maybe even mark your routes with your depth finder.
As long as the ice stays off the river I will still be running it, or walking it like Dry  :). I have enjoyed that too.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on November 30, 2020, 03:12:50 PM
Wind forecast for Thursday morning looks OK right now. Might be my last day this year. Heading to Potter Co Saturday!
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on December 01, 2020, 08:09:23 AM
Wind forecast for Thursday morning looks OK right now. Might be my last day this year. Heading to Potter Co Saturday!

Good luck up in Potter County! Should be snow up there.
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Phil Sweeney on December 01, 2020, 09:28:13 AM
Good luck up in Potter County! Should be snow up there.
Thanks! It will definitely be colder!!
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on December 06, 2020, 04:59:55 PM
Another cold but nice day. It's nice to get out and get some exercise.
Water was pretty clear and dropping.

(https://i.imgur.com/HtIvdif.jpg)

2 rods today, one was a slow rolling spinner bait and I tested a Fitt Big Willie. I lost one but that's part of fishing slow.

(https://i.imgur.com/td2rFrm.jpg)
I put the strands on myself.I had a few spare spinner bait skirts sitting around.

I mentioned before I don't really like fishing the river when there is strong winds. This happened this week sometime. pretty much right on the path.
That would have left a mark  ;D

No fish today, I believe a couple bites. The fish in that area are hit and miss. And it's either they aren't biting or they don't like what I'm serving, Haven't figured that out yet.  :)

(https://i.imgur.com/Iw7EQqi.jpg)
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: DRY on December 06, 2020, 05:37:00 PM
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... or they don't like what I'm serving, Haven't figured that out yet.  :)

In that picture of the down-fall...the river looks a lot like where I wade. Depth? What's the bottom like?

If I might suggest dropping down to 6 lb. test diameter line and smaller baits...in 40 degree water I find the smaller profile is more productive

In the Chillee Willie line of baits (which I love) the Big Willie is the biggest...try the Willie Wannabee in cold water and fish it slow. The lighter line and longer rod will give you more distance.

I may make a dozen or more casts over the same water...then cast a little upstream and show it to them from a different angle. They need to be coaxed and teased when they're cold.

Bill
Title: Re: Fall Fishing
Post by: Pawatch on December 06, 2020, 06:37:41 PM
Dry Thank you for the advice!
I was fishing Bass Pro Shop 6lb but was getting a lot of breaks. I then switched to Berkly Trilene big game green 8lb. But I wasn't exactly in love with it.
I then switched to McCoy Mean Green 8lb and have been pretty happy with that. The 6 and the 8 lines look real close when I compared them.

Currently have been fishing a lot of Ned's...1/10 weight with 1/0 hook,
I did try fishing with a wee Willie today on a 3/32 jig head but the wind was bowing my line quite a bit. I should have moved up to 1/8 jig head maybe.
Also will probably start fishing 1/8 hair jigs more. My boy ties them for me.

The water today was 3-4' with some 5-6' pockets I'm guessing. Bottom more mud and some moss than rock.
Was a lot of weeds this summer.

Thank you again for all of your suggestions!! I Will eventually get things dialed in.