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Susquehanna River, Questions & Comments => Susquehanna River Smallmouth Bass => Topic started by: FM on July 13, 2014, 09:29:19 AM

Title: White Fly Central
Post by: FM on July 13, 2014, 09:29:19 AM
It's getting close to the time for white flies to start clogging the river and bridges in the Susquehanna River Valley. Lets use this thread to report our sightings and other observations. If you guys down south start seeing some please post it and we northerners can use that as some sort of yard stick to try and time the hatch up here. If you have a great tale set of pics to go with it feel free to start your own thread for it. Meanwhile here is a great thread from Fishin247.com, on last summer's white fly hatch. The dates on the post are all in early August.
FM


White Flies (http://www.fishin247.com/index.php?topic=203.msg1269#msg1269)
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: CatfishJones on July 14, 2014, 07:19:07 AM
Hatch is so crazy down here that's causing drivers to have problems on the bridge at night. Read the link below. They've started hatching down here so great chance you guys are in for it soon.

http://www.yorkdispatch.com/breaking/ci_26125884/mayflies-infest-wrightsville-bridge.html (http://www.yorkdispatch.com/breaking/ci_26125884/mayflies-infest-wrightsville-bridge.html)
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on July 20, 2014, 01:43:10 AM
I saw tonight (7/19/14 on the North Branch near Falls, Pa.) what appears to be the beginning of the white fly invasion.  Saw just a few before dark, then more after dark.  A few smaller fish were taking some off the water, it was sporadic at best and didn't last much more than an hour.

http://youtu.be/0jiUHi8y6zw (http://youtu.be/0jiUHi8y6zw)

http://youtu.be/t0q5CbQO1ck (http://youtu.be/t0q5CbQO1ck)


Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: FM on July 20, 2014, 07:17:37 AM
I don't think those are the real deal. I've been seeing them for over a week. They are smaller and don't seem to get themselves organised into the cloud formation that the whites do. They are files and they are white but I'm skeptical.
FM
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: FM on July 20, 2014, 10:49:41 PM
Out on the river tonight till 9 pm no sign of the pesky white flies.
FM
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on July 22, 2014, 12:21:02 AM
Saw more of the smaller white flies tonight, after dark a few larger ones.  All in all there was a good variety of insects on the water after dark including what looked like some good sized Green or Brown Drakes. 

There was hardly any insects around until right before dark, the fish started slurping them up so I tied on a white fly.  It was so dark it was difficult to see the rises but lucky for me I scoped one out just upstream.  After 2 or 3 drifts over him I figured he didn't want my fly but on the next cast I heard a splash, lifted the rod and got my first pig smallie of the year.   The video is terrible but you can get a glimpse of the smallie.  He took the fly deep so it was obvious he wanted it.   

Only fish of the night and 1/2 hour afterwards the flies had just about disappeared.  Like I said there was a variety of insects on the water after dark so I can't say for certain but it looked to me like there were white flies in the mix, they looked like tiny sailboats cruising down the river.

http://youtu.be/pGTu1Vl998E (http://youtu.be/pGTu1Vl998E)
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: zziipp on July 22, 2014, 04:47:48 AM
by this weekend we should be overrun with them. thurs sounds like a good night to be invaded.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on July 22, 2014, 04:27:43 PM
I dont' think we'll see the blizzard this week, like FM said, there's no real clouds of them.   The reason I think there are some around is cuz like with the trout mayflies you can see 1 or 2 a few days or a week or more before the full blown hatch takes place.  We'll probably have to wait until the 1st week of August for the blizzard, but who knows.

I read that they travel 2-3 miles upriver per day, I think that's underestimated but either way they will hit Hunlocks area up to Nanticoke before I see them up around Falls. 

Another thing is I got a new high power 450 lumens flashlight which tends to make everything look white  :o  must be the reflection or something.  When I scan the river surface I see many white looking flies but looking straight down and picking them off the water the wings can be clear or the fly can be yellowish like a sulfur which are around as well, dragon flies are out as well as some tiny white flies, BUT occasionally I do pick one up that looks like the real thing.

So just cuz the smallie took my white fly imitation doesn't mean they're actually upon us just yet, and certainly not enough to cause a feeding frenzy.  I may have just gotten lucky with insects on the water and the bass feeding on them.

Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: Jigginjohnson on July 23, 2014, 06:25:11 PM
Copy and paste this link. Pretty awesome!!!

http://www.accuweather.com/en/features/trend/mayflies_swarm_mississippi_riv/30937631 (http://www.accuweather.com/en/features/trend/mayflies_swarm_mississippi_riv/30937631)
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on July 23, 2014, 06:53:55 PM
Very cool  ::)  thanks JJ  I wish we had a local radar that could follow the susky white fly hatch.  That's one heck of hatch they have going on, too much maybe.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on July 24, 2014, 05:56:17 PM
I just got off the phone with Joe Ackourey, fly tying guru and guide.  He says the white flies usually come all at once, no early signs of them usually.  He was actually going to head out tonight to scout for any.  His feeling is that within a few days or even sooner we should see the beginning of the real blizzards.

The flies I was seeing, along with all the others (non white flies) were either sulfurs or light cahills, or less probable  a few early white flies.  So FM was probably correct.

I'm heading out tonight to see what's happening.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: Jigginjohnson on July 24, 2014, 07:16:50 PM
I just got off the phone with Joe Ackourey, fly tying guru and guide.  He says the white flies usually come all at once, no early signs of them usually.  He was actually going to head out tonight to scout for any.  His feeling is that within a few days or even sooner we should see the beginning of the real blizzards.

The flies I was seeing, along with all the others (non white flies) were either sulfurs or light cahills, or less probable  a few early white flies.  So FM was probably correct.

I'm heading out tonight to see what's happening.

Joe is one hell of a guy. Guru is puting it lightly. He's usually spot on with his predictions.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on July 24, 2014, 10:50:47 PM
Tonight was very poor by way of insects.  Only a few of them around, I think mostly the Light Cahills.  Barely any fish rising, I ended up with 1 small bass.  The air temps dropped quickly, I could feel the steam coming off the water.

Day after a storm front came through, go figure, hardly even any birds or animals around.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on July 25, 2014, 10:00:40 PM
I met up with Joe Ackourey tonight, he's convinced the white flies will be here soon, this weekend maybe even.  You guys keep a look out on Sat. night.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: FM on July 25, 2014, 10:21:17 PM
I hiked/fished up the stretch from the Luzerne co airport to the 8th st bridge and back no sign of the nasty little buggers. I'm going with August 1st. But if they are timed by the moon phase them Saturday will be the night.
FM
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: Jigginjohnson on July 25, 2014, 10:55:25 PM
I hiked/fished up the stretch from the Luzerne co airport to the 8th st bridge and back no sign of the nasty little buggers. I'm going with August 1st. But if they are timed by the moon phase them Saturday will be the night.
FM

I like that stretch. Specifically, how did you do behind the bonton?
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: zziipp on July 26, 2014, 12:23:32 AM
I met up with Joe Ackourey tonight, he's convinced the white flies will be here soon, this weekend maybe even.  You guys keep a look out on Sat. night.
hd is the shop stiill open in luzerne. guys told me they closed down.i remember the one yr i was out with the lanterns and the full blown hatch happened. there were thousands of them piled up under my lanterns. you could smell em burnin on the globes.it took me a while to clean them lanterns up. blizzards not even the word to describe it.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on July 26, 2014, 01:50:06 AM
I was up at the Bon Ton access on Monday, there's a new post preventing any vehicles from driving up over the bank, it's hike in now.  Don't know what happened.  It was a popular canoe and kayak access  too.

zziipp Ackourey's Fly Shop is closed, has been for awhile.  Joe still guides and ties and sells flies. 
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: FM on July 26, 2014, 09:23:01 AM
You talking about the access road up and over the dike? I drove in there yesterday, not a problem.
FM
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on July 26, 2014, 01:10:51 PM
 :o   There is a paved road from the parking lot that goes up over the dike.  There were 2 posts on each side of the road, on Monday there was a 3rd post right in the middle.   Is there another way to get over the dike or does that middle post come out?   Are we talking about the same place, just past Bon Ton?
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: FM on July 26, 2014, 01:37:43 PM
Same place no middle post yesterday. I never saw it in. I know it is there to keep people out when the river is too high to go back there safely but It has to be really high before they put it in.
FM
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on July 26, 2014, 02:43:56 PM
That's odd, but good news,  maybe the outfitters have a way to contact the proper people and have it removed.  Joe Ackourey told me the same thing, his buddy went up there and couldn't drive back.  I never thought to see if the post came out but probably wouldn't have removed it anyway.   

If you come back out and the post is there hopefully you can muscle it out, lol, or be stuck for the night.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: FM on July 26, 2014, 03:42:15 PM
I would just drive around it.  8)
FM
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: eyechaser88 on July 29, 2014, 12:42:03 AM
Fished near Mckees half falls on sat. the hatch was in blizzard form !!!
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on July 29, 2014, 05:50:58 PM
I guess I'll have to head down river to fish the white fly hatch this week  ::)
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: FM on July 29, 2014, 06:20:16 PM
Seems like the hatch is moving pretty slowly this year. These cold nights this week are not going to pick up the tempo either. No matter what the hatch is guaranteed to arrive here next week while I'm in VA. Try to save a couple nights for me if you can.
FM
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: bent rod on July 31, 2014, 06:20:03 AM
There was a great hatch last night in the Bloomsburg area.  I had been seeing just a few the last 3 nights, but last night it was a blizzard.  We fished top water during the hatch and did well.  All age classes of fish which is great.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: FM on July 31, 2014, 06:49:03 AM
Time to start getting ready. thanks for the report.
FM
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: chez on July 31, 2014, 08:26:02 AM
I never fished the WHITE FLY BITE,IM HOPEING TO TRY IT THIS YEAR.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: zziipp on July 31, 2014, 12:12:39 PM
I never fished the WHITE FLY BITE,IM HOPEING TO TRY IT THIS YEAR.
KEEP YOUR MOUTH CLOSED OR YOU WILL BE INHALING THEM LIKE BILLY BASS.LOL
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: chez on July 31, 2014, 01:28:11 PM
I GUESS THERE WILL BE NO PARODI SMOKEING ON THE WHITE FLY TRIP.LOL. :)
Boy i hope i can make it out for them.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on July 31, 2014, 02:12:38 PM
Chez, a good cigar will clear the air a bit, (not saying Parodi's are, j/k) I always bring some cigars for night fishing, helps keep the skeeters off you too.

Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: FM on August 01, 2014, 12:04:12 AM
Spent a couple hours catfishin in a new place. Slow but got a big fallfish and one 24 inch channel cat. I felt sorry for catching the cat, Its lower jaw was completely severed in half. No white flies.
FM
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on August 01, 2014, 03:21:35 AM
This is gonna sound crazy but I've been mapping this progression.  The traces should be in Berwick by now.  I figure in a couple of days the beginning stretch will hit Shickshinny by Sunday.   

Given the bio scientific gurus that say they move 2-3 river miles per day, they should hit Cooperstown by Christmas.

LMFAO 

I'm ready to follow this hatch all the way to Cooperstown NY, let's film a documentary, who's with me?

I think before I pass I'd like to do a nice documentary following the white fly hatch all the way up the river, it might be interesting.   Too bad most of the action takes place after dark.

Bucket list
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: FM on August 01, 2014, 07:43:05 AM
That would be a worthy project. A white fly documentary.
FM
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: chez on August 01, 2014, 08:28:30 AM
HD. you could name the documentry after the    RUSH song[[FLY BY NITE]] ;)
ALL jokeing aside all this white fly talk got me very interested.
I use to stay off the river when it happened.MY BAD I GUESS.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on August 07, 2014, 11:36:13 PM
LOL yeah Chez, Fly by Night, that's basically what they do, not as big or as scary as the owl on the album cover though.

Taxidermyed and I saw the white flies tonight around the Hunlocks area, not a full out blizzard but a ton of them and it got cloudy with them for awhile.  We saw some rises and got some fish but not as many rises as I expected, maybe the lack of water clarity had something to do with it.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: chez on August 08, 2014, 08:39:16 AM
AT least you got a few fish brother.No one can say your not trying.You keep everyone up to date on the WHITE FLY ACTIVITY.Your a VALUBLE MEMBER.
HOPE TO MEET YOU ON THE WATER SOON.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: chez on August 18, 2014, 08:56:12 AM
(http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u459/chesniak123/20140816_210056_zpsjuvddmba.jpg) (http://s1068.photobucket.com/user/chesniak123/media/20140816_210056_zpsjuvddmba.jpg.html)
Hit the river for cats Saturday nite.
Real slow nite.6 of us gave it a shot being the river came up a bit.
Zziipp his 2 nephews,Big Crew,his son  Chipp and Myself.
The White Fly Action happened but im a small dose.It lasted 30 minutes or so and the nothing.When i was leaving.Zziipps nephew landed a nice cat on a frog,i didnt get a pic.Was still a nice nite out whit friends.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: FM on August 18, 2014, 01:46:41 PM
I was out last night in Falls area and the hatch was small and lack luster. There were no fish rising to eat dead flies. The bite was really good when it got dark on my 1/4 oz Joe's Fly gold and black. I got a few smaller ones before dark but the better fish really came on once the glow of sunset faded. I was barely crawling them along as they swung around with the current all the hits came right along the shore within 10 feet. They must be coming in to fill up on crawdads and minnows. I will be trying it again with a floating rapala to see if that works any better.
FM


Almost forgot I missed my path back to my truck in the dark walked right by it cause I was saving battery in my head lamp for the woods. added a quarter mile to my hike. + lost my eye glasses taking off and on my fishing pack, good times lol


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/virtualdave/SF/2014/smallie2.jpg)
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: zziipp on August 19, 2014, 05:51:06 AM
(http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u459/chesniak123/20140816_210056_zpsjuvddmba.jpg) (http://s1068.photobucket.com/user/chesniak123/media/20140816_210056_zpsjuvddmba.jpg.html)
Hit the river for cats Saturday nite.
Real slow nite.6 of us gave it a shot being the river came up a bit.
Zziipp his 2 nephews,Big Crew,his son  Chipp and Myself.
The White Fly Action happened but im a small dose.It lasted 30 minutes or so and the nothing.When i was leaving.Zziipps nephew landed a nice cat on a frog,i didnt get a pic.Was still a nice nite out whit friends.
yea chez he ended up with 3 cats that night all on his one pole in the same spot. lol. me and my other nephew got nadda. was fun though. they liked hanging with crews son chip though. i didnt get home til almost 4am lol.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: chez on August 19, 2014, 07:41:10 AM
Those 2 boys are diehards ZZIIPP.I thought my boys were diehards till i met your nephews.Im glad they ended up with a few.I knew that frog would produce.You lasted till 4am.Great!!!!!!.You guys had enough hotdogs to last.LOL.It was a fun nite.Like i tell my boys,you dont need to catch a bunch of fish to have a fun trip.
We gotta give it another try before hunting season. :)I got out of work yesterday and took a walk on my hunting land.{{THE LEAVES ARE STARTING TO CHANGE}}
BOW SEASON and WALLEYES on the BIG D,right around the corner. ;)
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: johnfries7 on March 09, 2016, 01:14:19 AM
we have a prolific caddis hatch in april but no white fly ive seen the main st bridge covered with caddis
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: FM on July 13, 2016, 04:26:39 PM
Black Raspberries were early this summer, and I will begin picking some black berries next week early also. I'm guessing that it is due to the mild winter last year. what I'm getting at is that the white flies may start to show up any day. The river is low and the temps are high for the perfect smallie storm.
FM
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: dretallack on July 16, 2016, 10:12:59 AM
Heads up, the white flies came out last night in the Harrisburg area.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: johnfries7 on July 16, 2016, 09:40:32 PM
hd I took the fly rod out this evening  using poppers I had a dandy on but it jumped and was gone, had fun thou
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on July 17, 2016, 10:41:30 AM
They feel a lot different on a fly rod, what weight rod are you using ?   The other night I made the switch over from fly rod to spinning rod after the insects subsided and it was a different world landing the smallies on the spinning rod.

I haven't been out since last Tuesday cuz I've been super busy working but I will be out this week.  Last time what I saw was light cahills out very early, gone by 7pm, and then the sulphurs came out right around dark. 

Are you staying out past dark ?   Nothing much was happening up here last week until dark and later.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: johnfries7 on July 17, 2016, 10:17:31 PM
its a 6 wt hd  weight forward line I was down today and fished till 7 30 at night did not see one rise, the lights on the bridge will light up the river after dark, the skeeters are real bad thou






;30
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: Mark Sharrar on July 30, 2016, 02:51:33 PM
Hi I was out last evening near Marietta on the river. I stayed until about an hour after sundown and they were pretty thick
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on August 01, 2016, 05:36:28 PM
I read a report on FlyFishPa that someone saw a bunch of spent white flies on the water Saturday morning.  I haven't been out myself since last Tuesday.

Unless we get another downpour I'll be checking the area near Apple Tree this evening, I am not optimistic because of the storms we've had and the rising water.

Accuweather says flash flood warnings in effect until 2am for Tunkhannock, it won't make the river un-fishable by any means but it might have an effect on the hatch.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: Nemo on August 01, 2016, 06:40:11 PM
You better hurry up HD! meshoppen gage is holding steady for now white flys have been out since the 30th. friend of mine hammered them into dark last thursday. 30 sum smallies and a bunch of big hungry fly guzzling cat fish all fell for his white fly imatation.. said NOBODY else was on the river where he was. The same guy is on the river now as I type not far from where u fish said the rain last couple days hasn't done nothing  to the river.  If I had a good limb I would run circles around ya.  :P lol Jk go get em! And post some pics when you do.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: Nemo on August 01, 2016, 08:31:57 PM
Oh boy! just got a text "here they come" might be epic if the rain cell going through doesn't mess it up. if i get some pics i will post em.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on August 01, 2016, 08:40:05 PM
Well I didn't get out tonight, besides the rain I'm trying to salvage what's left of my work equipment from this weekend.   :-\   Maybe tomorrow
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: Nemo on August 01, 2016, 09:05:11 PM
latest text.... "insane, just had one snap my 3x tippet"  :o
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: Nemo on August 02, 2016, 11:07:35 AM
"maybe tomorrow" Their ain't no maybe's when it comes to the white fly hatch.  ;D It will be over before you know it!  ;)
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on August 02, 2016, 01:38:06 PM
I'll be out tonight to see what's going on, fishing has been the last thing on my mind lately.  Why don't you join me.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: Nemo on August 02, 2016, 01:55:56 PM
I wish i can brother! Tough for me to do anything right now. My mother is not doing the greatest and she is my first priorty.  When I do get a chance to go I head up to the delaware the fishing is absolutely insane up there right now. Sulphurs, olives, light cahills, ISO's and big yellow drakes have ben coming off for over a month now. Go get em bro, were lucky to have it in our back yard. 8) uploading some pics now my buddy sent me.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: Nemo on August 02, 2016, 02:03:07 PM
Here ya go! The pic of the channle is from last thursday and the fly pic is from last night. (http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww61/pugnemo/Fishing%20pics/IMG951613_zpsyz370tf4.jpg) (http://s706.photobucket.com/user/pugnemo/media/Fishing%20pics/IMG951613_zpsyz370tf4.jpg.html)  (http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww61/pugnemo/Fishing%20pics/IMG951620_zpsbxgovydw.jpg) (http://s706.photobucket.com/user/pugnemo/media/Fishing%20pics/IMG951620_zpsbxgovydw.jpg.html)
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on August 02, 2016, 10:53:48 PM
White flies were out tonight in the Falls area, no blizzard but a decent hatch.  Nothing much around until near dark.  I caught a few nice ones, had one break me off at the tippet knot on a hook set, the line came shooting back at me.  It was pretty much over by 10pm. 

(http://i.imgur.com/tN8u40m.jpg)

https://youtu.be/5M-Eza7SSkk (https://youtu.be/5M-Eza7SSkk)

I saw a couple large fish in the shallows, on the way out I lit one up with my flashlight, it was long and slender, very long, it slowly made it's way out to deeper water.

Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: chez on August 03, 2016, 07:22:23 AM
I wish i can brother! Tough for me to do anything right now. My mother is not doing the greatest and she is my first priorty.  When I do get a chance to go I head up to the delaware the fishing is absolutely insane up there right now. Sulphurs, olives, light cahills, ISO's and big yellow drakes have ben coming off for over a month now. Go get em bro, were lucky to have it in our back yard. 8) uploading some pics now my buddy sent me.

I WISH YOU THE BEST WITH YOUR MOM ,NEMO...
IVE BEEN THERE..I know what your going threw.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: Nemo on August 03, 2016, 04:07:54 PM
I WISH YOU THE BEST WITH YOUR MOM ,NEMO...
IVE BEEN THERE..I know what your going threw.
Thanks bro! much appreciated! fishing can wait, Family comes first. Next week is Nemo Time, sister is on vacation all week she will be with mom then. I'll be Going to the Dream Catchers for a couple days, That's the reel deal brother!!!!
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: Nemo on August 03, 2016, 04:19:02 PM
"White flies were out tonight in the Falls area, no blizzard but a decent hatch.  Nothing much around until near dark.  I caught a few nice ones, had one break me off at the tippet knot on a hook set, the line came shooting back at me.  It was pretty much over by 10pm."    Good thing you got out when you did. river climbed 2.5 feet since this morning and it's still rising. she is a whole other animal when it comes to her vast watershed area. let us know what you find if u venture out tonight. don't think my buddy will be going.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: Nemo on August 03, 2016, 04:50:10 PM
Heres something new. webcam at the gage in towanda.   http://waterdata.usgs.gov/pa/nwis/uv?site_no=01531500
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on August 03, 2016, 07:02:38 PM
Neat webcam.  Towanda is pretty far up,  the guage at Wilkes  Barre hasn't changed much in the past 24 hours but is on the up-swing, so I guess we're looking at a rising river tonight.  Either way I'm heading out now.

Do I know this friend of yours ?   I'd like to fish with him sometime, tomorrow maybe even
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: Nemo on August 03, 2016, 07:20:31 PM
I don't go by the towanda gage. I use the meshoppen gage. closer to where we fish. River is climbing ungodly! lol Do you like chocolate milk with your white flys. lol No you never met him. He's fishes just like you tho. HE can't sit still for two seconds.lmao Good luck and get some pics of the soup while your there. :o
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on August 03, 2016, 09:53:39 PM
You were right, again  :-[  water clarity is crap.   There were white flies in the air and on the water, saw 1 rise in 2 hours.  I caught 1 foot long bass on a white popper.  It was a bust, talked to a couple guys and they all said the bite was way off.

It's gonna take awhile for the water to clear up.  This year the white flies might be a bust for me.

I even had a hard time wading, getting out I got wrapped up around a big rock, current is really moving, loads of debris and weeds and tree limbs floating down.  My popper got weeds wrapped around it a few times.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: Nemo on August 03, 2016, 10:39:01 PM
That sucks! Don't ever go by what the wilkes barre gage says.. What I like to do is look at both the meshoppen and wiles barre gages and compare the two But the only way to really  know what is  going on is to do what you did. Go and check it out for yourself. theres still some time left to maybe get the end of the hatch in. If not we'll be drilling holes like eskimos on her before ya know it. lol
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: Nemo on August 04, 2016, 09:16:36 AM
About the USGS, what's nice is that you can over lap multiple sites and compare the flow. On the right hand side you will see a box, copy and paste the number of a site you want to plot and it will replot them for you. you can also zoom in to see exactly when it peaks. they've come along way with the USGS, I find it a very useful tool to have when it comes to making a trip especially if you have to drive far to get there.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on August 04, 2016, 05:38:46 PM
That's interesting, thanks, looks like the WB Guage is blown up 4x what it was last night  :o

I might be able to get out Sunday, definitely Monday, we'll see if the whiteys are still around.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: chez on August 04, 2016, 05:56:22 PM
Give me a shout if your heading out sunday evenig HD.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: Nemo on August 05, 2016, 10:07:12 AM
That's interesting, thanks, looks like the WB Guage is blown up 4x what it was last night  :o

I might be able to get out Sunday, definitely Monday, we'll see if the whiteys are still around.
It's dropping pretty quick, (meshoppen gage) In 17hours it dropped a foot to 12 inches. :o It has dropped almost two feet since it peaked at 3am aug 4th. at that rate you should be good to go on sunday. My buddy fished above tunk. last eve said he did good on smallies, that's all I got out of him so far. If I hear anything else I'll let you know.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on August 05, 2016, 01:45:22 PM
Thanks, I'll post on here Sunday if I'm going.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: Nemo on August 06, 2016, 11:27:54 AM
She's dropping nice but I doubt the clarity is to clear yet. Only one way to find out.  ;)
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: chez on August 06, 2016, 12:26:39 PM
I was up along the river last nite,going out for gills at a lake in TUNCKHANNOCK.
RIVER wasstill dirty but,ideal water level in my eyes.
3 boats were at at APPLE TREE,AND1 AT FALLS.
ON MY WAY HOME LAST NITE AROUND 9.30..
IT WAS LIKE A SNOW STORM BY TONTIES OLD FARM..
I IMAGINE THEY WERE THE WHITE FLYS.
ONLY SEEN THEM IN THAT AREA.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on August 07, 2016, 04:46:52 PM
I guess I'll have a look at the water at Apple Tree and make a stop or 2 up river from there to see what the conditions are.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: Nemo on August 07, 2016, 05:23:54 PM
judging by that webcam I provided looks to be a 5 on a scale of 1-10 10 being the worst.  ;D  http://paapps.er.usgs.gov/webcams/01531500/01531500_17.jpg
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on August 07, 2016, 11:30:00 PM
I stopped by Apple Tree launch to check water clarity and it wasn't too bad
(http://i.imgur.com/0cuCkNv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/6aPG7BZ.jpg)

I headed up river a few miles and didn't see many insects at first, caught a few fish on poppers, then the white flies showed up, slowly.  By dusk there were fish rising and I was in business, ended up with 12-15 bass, a couple nice ones.

(http://i.imgur.com/quCEdYf.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/L4iM8kJ.jpg)

It didn't last long, 45 minutes maybe, then the rises just slowed down, the flies were disappearing quickly, it was a short and not very prolific hatch.  There were still some insects on the water but very few fish rising.  I stopped seeing any risers by 10pm.

It could be near the end for the white flies unless you want to head up river.
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: Nemo on August 08, 2016, 10:32:21 AM
Nice pics, glad you were able to get out and fish the hatch again. You should try further up river just to see if the hatch is any better.  maybe whites ferry or tunk. area
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: johnfries7 on August 09, 2016, 01:16:23 AM
you guys are my heroes I love sm moth fishin especially top water. thank you for your post
Title: Re: White Fly Central
Post by: HenryDavid on August 13, 2016, 12:19:04 PM
I went to check river conditions Friday and was surprised to see a white fly hatch, lots of them, a near blizzard.  The fish were going nuts for them for awhile, it calmed down around 9:30pm, still dead flies on the water but the fish simply stopped rising for them.