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Different church
« on: May 08, 2018, 11:44:10 AM »
Fished a different church today  ???  ;)  :)

Was nice crotch deep water...with plenty of pools between rocky fast stretches.

But the word must have gotten out that the beast (me) was after them... or else all the congregation went home...

Only managed a half dozen stream sized (1.5 #) smallmouth...

Could also be that they're getting in the love-making mood  8)...yesterday quite a few of them showed signs of spawning.

Gonna try a different church tomorrow.  ::)  ;D

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Re: Different church
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2018, 08:10:35 AM »
Not sure about your area but it's sexy time for the bass on the Juniata.  ;D

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Re: Different church
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2018, 01:38:49 PM »
Not sure about your area but it's sexy time for the bass on the Juniata.  ;D

Haven't fished the Susky because it is closed. But Danville water temps hovering around 65F...that should be enough to bring on the spawn.

Water temps on my local trib (limestone/freestone creek) hovering around 60-62F and all the large fish I caught this morning were still carrying eggs. They have not spawned yet.

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Re: Different church
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2018, 03:26:22 PM »
Any idea why the Susky isnít closed from the Adam T. Bower Memorial Dam up the North branch May 1st to opening day of Bass?

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Re: Different church
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2018, 08:23:41 PM »
Any idea why the Susky isnít closed from the Adam T. Bower Memorial Dam up the North branch May 1st to opening day of Bass?

The main stem has been the section of the river with the most disease problems...intersexing...black spots...cancer...and poor Year of Young (YOY) reproduction data. The north branch has been relatively spared from the disease problem.

Here is the Year of Young data showing that smallmouth reproduction is worse from the Fabridam downstream. This is why this section has been treted differently.

http://pfbc.pa.gov/images/reports/2016bio/susqYOYsmb.pdf

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Re: Different church
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2018, 02:15:36 PM »
Thank You Bill, some interesting reading.

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Re: Different church
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2018, 08:20:15 AM »
Thank You Bill, some interesting reading.

If the river is blown out from all the rain...and you've got some time on your hands...and you like to read...

Here is a study done about 10 years ago by the U.S. Geological Service (Dr. Vickie Blazer) that nicely describes the numerous problems and their causes affecting smallmouth bass in the Susquehanna watershed. What I found astounding was the numerous chemicals found in the bodies of smallmouth bass.

The study is a little scientific but it is in the format of a slide presentation and is pretty easy to follow. The bottom line is that 1. hormones (chemicals) in the water are altering the male fish's sex and interfering with reproduction 2. chemicals in the water damage the immune system and the fish can't fight infections and they die 3. chemicals in the water cause other diseases like cancer

http://www.srbc.net/programs/docs/wqac101310smb.PDF

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Re: Different church
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2018, 10:19:04 AM »
Well it's another year the MAIN spawn is lost due to high water. Then there is chemicals - intersex fish - fungus - predation. It's amazing we have any bass. Thank goodness the bass don't all spawn at the same time. It is really smart of the PFBC to keep the season closed longer to save the late spawners.

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Re: Different church
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2018, 11:16:50 AM »
Well it's another year the MAIN spawn is lost due to high water. Then there is chemicals - intersex fish - fungus - predation. It's amazing we have any bass. Thank goodness the bass don't all spawn at the same time. It is really smart of the PFBC to keep the season closed longer to save the late spawners.

I also believe that fishing should be closed during the smallmouth spawn...makes rational sense to me.

But I also believe we really have done nothing and probably cannot do anything to correct the environmental problems that exist...the smallmouth survive not because of what we have done but they survive in spite of what we have done. How long they are able to do that is anybody's guess.

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Re: Different church
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2018, 12:09:01 PM »
Bill it would be interesting if the chemical issues are an ongoing inflow or if it is a legacy problem.  Perhaps some sort of bait fish could be introduced that is harvested to remove the chemicals from the food chain? 

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Re: Different church
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2018, 03:50:56 PM »
Bill it would be interesting if the chemical issues are an ongoing inflow or if it is a legacy problem.  Perhaps some sort of bait fish could be introduced that is harvested to remove the chemicals from the food chain?

Agriculture - excess fertilizer (nitrates and phosphates); Atrazine and RoundUp from no till planting....legacy and ongoing

Run off - by products of asphalt...ongoing

Inadequate sewage treatment - drugs, soap products, personal care products, etc....ongoing

Scores if not hundreds of old factories and community dumps that are filled with chemicals that continue to leach into the watershed. There are so many SuperFund sites that they will never be cleaned up and the chemicals persist for generations.

The entire food chain is contaminated right up to and including you and me.

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Re: Different church
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